With the current medical supply issues, is anyone cleaning their gloves to reuse, and if so, how?
With the current medical supply issues, is anyone cleaning their gloves to reuse, and if so, how?
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James Bricknell
2020-03-26 10:43:55
The only way I can think of is to cure the resin on them, then crack it off
Shawn O'Hara
2020-03-26 10:49:46
Risky and each use increases the potential for failure , but unless they are thoroughly cleaned they'll just get sticky over a few uses even if you cure them (which degrades the gloves). Carefully removing them and laying them spread out so they don't stick together is probably the best bet to reuse.
Greg Keddy
2020-03-26 10:50:02
I take them off by pulling one finger at a time. If you do it carefully and put them on carefully, then you can reuse them. I have also been reusing filter funnels for the same color resin
Scott Pavlich
2020-03-26 10:51:52
No but I wait till I’ve got a day or so of prints pile up before cleaning them
Jason Dickson
2020-03-26 10:52:35
Would you wash and reuse rubber "gloves" used on other appendages?
Stephen Carr
2020-03-26 10:54:06
I just pull the parts out with my mouth. No gloves needed.
Mike Johnson
2020-03-26 11:00:49
I use mine several times, generally until there's a failure of some kind.
Stefan Giudici
2020-03-26 11:04:28
Greg Keddy
should wash them, acrylate monomers can penetrate gloves in just a few minutes so if you take them off with resin on them and put them back on 10 minutes later you'll potentially be exposed
Greg Keddy
2020-03-26 11:16:11
Chad Elstad
2020-03-26 11:18:01
I have a set of heavy-duty gloves that I use when working around the printer like refilling the printer and such. I only use nitrile gloves when I'm actually removing prints from the build plate and doing post processing. It cuts down some how many gloves I'm using.
Daniel J Regan
2020-03-26 11:21:04
Who uses gloves? Just wash your hands in metho when you're done.
Reb O'Rourke
2020-03-26 11:24:40
When I actually use gloves I've always reused them...
Cleaning them is easy, ipa then soapy water, take them off and let them dry. Make sure you ALWAYS put them back on the same way though, don't want to be turning them inside out.
Lyra Amber
2020-03-26 11:39:21
I have like 200 nitrile gloves I'll be okay
Matthew W. Johnson
2020-03-26 11:46:57
I just bought another box at the paint store. They seemed to have plenty a week ago.
Kevin Piatz
2020-03-26 11:50:45
I gave them to our local hospital along with my IPA.
Rigo Arevalo
2020-03-26 11:57:12
Yes, after I use them I while them down then put them under UV, either sun or lamp for a few seconds
Josh Berkley
2020-03-26 12:08:16
I don't wear gloves and just wash my hands before touching anything else. My skin isn't bothered by resin in the slightest. Maybe that's really stupid but I've been doing this for months and haven't seen any negative affects. To avoid purchasing the p
lastic disposable measuring cups/paper funnel strainers (I saw right away how that would add up) I got myself a nice set of smaller plastic funnels I can wash and rinse with alcohol, a set of plastic beakers with mL markings, a set of 8 droppers each with mL markings and a metal strainer used for a kitchen sink that I can wash out and reuse I love not worrying about disposable supplies and those things should still be available in stores that are open right now. The strainer is especially nice because it fits really well into the biggest funnel I use for draining when I know the resin will fit in the bottle and I don't need to hold it with my off hand and can stabilize the bottle.
Michael MacGowan
2020-03-26 12:18:12
Some laugh, but in developing countries, they often wash and re-use gloves in hospitals. There have been efforts to help, but when those resources dry up...
Kevin Thomas
2020-03-26 12:44:28
Nitrile gloves can be cleaned with alcohol based cleaners, you can even use hand sanitizer. Wipe them off, then clean them with alcohol if you want to reuse.
Matthew King
2020-03-26 13:11:58
Yeah... Don't do this. The resin can absorb into your skin and harden in uv light over time. You wouldn't notice anything until your fingers begin to loose felling.
Nathan Hall
2020-03-26 13:53:12
Jason Dickson
I feel like the stakes are a lot lower in the case of reusing gloves for 3D printing
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James Reedy
2020-03-26 14:02:37
I dunno but I’ve been turning the condom inside out when she asks for round 2, I’m good right?
Rose Stumpwater
2020-03-26 15:01:20
Nope. They're really only good for short term protection anyway and break down quickly when exposed to resin and cleaners. If I don't have fresh gloves I'm not printing - I can wait a couple weeks. Printing isn't worth risking my health or ability to print in future due to being sensitized to the resin.
Tom Howley
2020-03-26 15:12:14
as long as you use the back door, sure
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Simon Walker
2020-03-26 15:16:57
use marigolds. they work great and are reusable
Bob Deblier
2020-03-26 15:20:46
Sam Applegarth
2020-03-26 15:41:41
Josh Berkley
I don’t know about the “resin absorbing into your skin and hardening over time,” but it can cause irritation and linger on your hands even after washing, which can then get into your system via eyes/nose/mouth. There have also been some cl
aims that link resin exposure to increased cancer rates, but as to how valid those are I can’t say. Generally, the long term effects of exposure haven’t really been studied fully since we haven’t had the ability to print with these types of resin for that long. Wear gloves if you can, just to be safe; but I wouldn’t freak out if you have to handle prints without them for a while.
Peter Csaki
2020-03-26 15:48:53
Aaron Strome
2020-03-26 16:03:45
dollar store kitchen gloves last months at a time...
Ryan Tudor
2020-03-26 16:15:27
Bad idea. Resin and ipa/cleaners break down the gloves. There is no substitution for effective PPE. It's disposeable for a good reason.
How do so many commenters here not know this? Concerning..
Pierre Maugard
2020-03-26 16:27:08
Ryan Tudor
this is theory vs experience. I do wash and reuse my gloves with no problem for at least 10 times... and not only because of shortage, as I do this since years.
Kevin Boogaard
2020-03-26 16:49:59
Just bought 2000. I’ll be fine.
Jamie Stuart
2020-03-26 17:32:21
I use Nitrile Rubber Gauntlets
Marcin Czyszczon
2020-03-26 17:59:44
I use Nitrite gloves just put the to the side, I have area designated to work on my non cured models and I just threat the whole area as "contaminated" the whole point of the gloves is that the resin does not get on your hands, so does not matter if th
ey are dirty on outside, just make sure you take them off properly and do not put them on inside out
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They usually last for quite long time as I don't really soak them in resin ... just handle the prints and I try to be as clean about it as I can. Just give them quick rub with IPA once you done the same way you would wash your hands. And them obviously put them in area that is "contaminated" and you know about it. As long as there are no holes in them you good to reuse them.
Ryan Tudor
2020-03-26 18:01:42
Your comment makes alot more sense if you replace the word experience with freugal.
Ryan Tudor
2020-03-26 18:03:57
And yes most regioursly tested science is only theoretical
Derek Reihe
2020-03-26 19:00:47
Ryan Tudor
with your vast well of knowledge, how long does it take for ipa to break down nitrile rubber?
Hemming Ross
2020-03-26 19:39:19
Roland Hoffert
2020-03-26 20:42:13
At the moment I only print the most necessary so as not to waste unnecessary material that could possibly be used for other purposes.
Ryan Tudor
2020-03-26 21:03:39
Derek Reihe
Ipa doesn't really interfere with gloves as far as I know, so it would take a long while. With that said used ipa will have traces of uncured resin in it so that becomes a factor for me.
Here is a link that has a spreadsheet of glove materials and their reactions to all kinds of substances.
https://glovesbyweb.com/....../gloves-chemical......
Derek Reihe
2020-03-26 21:10:56
Ryan Tudor
so how long do traces of uncured resin take to break down nitrile rubber?
I'm curious where we got from this: to "doesn't really interfere with gloves"
Dallas Winston Fitzgerald
2020-03-26 21:17:59
I'm just not printing at all because if making resin baubles is more important than people's access to medical supplies to you, I think you're selfish as hell point blank.
Ryan Tudor
2020-03-26 21:33:28
Derek Reihe
if your asking questions not for the answer but to make a point, than why don't you make it already.
Ryan Tudor
2020-03-26 21:34:47
My point is this: don't reuse gloves because you're putting yourself at risk.
Ryan Tudor
2020-03-26 21:39:06
Derek Reihe
furthermore, encouraging new printers to take on half measures when it comes to their own personal safety is irresponsible
Derek Reihe
2020-03-26 21:40:01
I'm just looking for how you got from "resin and IPA/cleaners break down the gloves" to "resin and IPA does not break down gloves in the slightest but you shouldn't do it anyway"
were you lying to make the concern/attention gained greater than it is in reality?
Ryan Tudor
2020-03-26 22:12:39
Derek Reihe
maybe re-read, I don't think I contradicted my statlement at all. I'm all ears if you have a different workflow on this topic? if you're just being passive agressive than I'm sorry for my role in it, and I'll not be participating. if what i
said strikes you as a personal affront or something just know that my only motives here are to set an example of good safety measures. I feel they should be respected at all times, and not exclusively when it's convenient.
Ryan Tudor
2020-03-26 22:14:43
Derek Reihe
2020-03-26 22:18:02
Derek Reihe
2020-03-26 22:18:15
I was lying then but I'm surely not lying now, trust me
Ryan Tudor
2020-03-26 22:21:01
First statement true, assuming we all use our ipa more than once. But you've made your shallow point I suppose
Brian Romine
2020-03-26 22:28:12
I have a nitrile glove that I peel off carefully and keep by the printer.
I've been using it for a couple of weeks, it works fine.
Derek Reihe
2020-03-26 22:36:06
so again, how long does it take for IPA to break down a nitrile glove then
Dylan Hancox
2020-03-26 22:38:32
I use marigolds and wash them after and reuse them
Tim Moulton
2020-03-26 22:40:37
Bob Smith
2020-03-27 00:15:38
Sergio Romero
2020-03-27 01:03:43
I always reuse gloves, a pair of nitrile ones are good for a month or so.
Ray Sears
2020-03-27 01:12:04
I have a thick set I use for removing prints and cleaning. I just wash them like I was washing my hands in alcohol now and then but mostly I don't bother.
I don't bother with disposables unless it is something delicate or will need a lot of handling.
Greg Keddy
2020-03-27 01:13:35
Study of the effectiveness of various glove types at protecting from monomers found in resins. All gloves were permeable to the smallest monomers (molecular resin building blocks) within 2 hours. Nitrile gloves were closer to 5-10 minutes. I admit that I only read the summary, so I may have missed something important from the body
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12974690/
Devin Wallace Simonsen
2020-03-27 02:05:38
this... I use my gloves until they get resin on them, after that it's 2-3 minutes at most before I change them
Josh Berkley
2020-03-27 02:21:14
Sam Applegarth
everything causes cancer. And it's not hard to wash it off? I use hand sanitizer first due to its alcohol content then regular soap and water. Trust me I've tasted it before after eating/drinking things I've touched much later. I know when it's still there. Not claiming to be safe just saying what I do
Jason Pedersen
2020-03-27 03:32:05
Derek Reihe
dude, give it up. He self corrected by saying the dissolved resin in the IPA can be the issue.
Derek Reihe
2020-03-27 03:44:29
he already did that, and then caterwauled instead of explain how long resin takes to dissolve gloves
John Bubuz
2020-03-27 03:52:37
il covid19 è un virus che attacca le vie aeree (naso, bocca e occhi): i guanti sono praticamente inutili. per proteggersi le mani è sufficiente lavarsele spesso per almeno 30-40 secondi e pulirle con gel a base alcolica.
David Seaman
2020-03-27 04:00:47
Devin Wallace Simonsen
This, man. This. I don't get the people that reuse nitrile gloves. They're so unbelievably dirt cheap. And even now, you can still get them fairly fast. To reuse and put yourself at a safety risk is insane...lol.
Robin Blair
2020-03-27 05:01:44
Hmm.. good to know. I only really contact the resin for a few seconds at a time though, before the first wash at least (I drop models from the build plate right into the rinse container). So the gloves are mainly for accidents. They do touch the model
when it comes out of the rinse for longer, but hopefully most resin is off by then. I'll pay more attention now though. I'd just use lots of gloves, but seems they are needed for more important stuff currently?
Piotr Kuśmierski
2020-03-27 08:49:11
To be honest I did have opportunity to test it. I had by accident left glove in small pool of resin for over 16h. After that I wated to chec how damaged glove was. I cleaned glove in ultrasonic cleaner. It was harder in the point of contact, but not to the point when I would breake at norma sage just less elastic. I also tested and it was tight no air or water was able to penetrate it.
Ryan Tudor
2020-03-27 10:52:38
Yikes. That's an interesting experiment. Just be mindful what you expose yourself to for hobby/science. Too much resin exposure can cause alergic dermititis.
Richard Tyler Jr
2020-03-27 11:42:45
You could use heavy dishwashing gloves but you lose a lot of feel.
Devin Wallace Simonsen
2020-03-27 18:37:36
picking up gloves with dirty hands contaminates the whole box of gloves when talking virus and similar... it's not better than nothing, it's a false sense of security
Devin Wallace Simonsen
2020-03-27 18:38:01
diffusion would still mean resin would penetrate
Jim Matasovsky
2020-03-27 20:29:09
wow. I did not know that the nitrile ones were permeable to resin too. Time to use and toss!
Richard Tyler Jr
2020-03-27 20:46:09
Dan Dinolfo
2020-03-27 22:01:31
I've got two boxes of 200. I'd have donated some, but we opened both boxes already and the hospital didn't want them if they were opened.
John Bubuz
2020-03-28 01:06:55
coi guanti, o senza, si rischia sempre di contaminarsi le mani: l'importante è non portarle a naso, bocca o occhi !
Ken Schmitt
2020-03-29 23:18:18
automotive gloves, much heavier duty, intended for changing transmission fluids and break fluids and other unfriendly stuff. try an auto parts store, kind of expensive
Ken Schmitt
2020-03-29 23:20:35
the other end is food grade celophane, water resistant, maybe not the best for anything but water soluble resin work, but theire cheap
Jenny Searcy
2020-03-29 23:21:35
Just put some alcohol on gloved hands and rub together like washing hands, remove and dry
Sonny Green
2020-03-29 23:46:21
I have around 5 boxes of 5mil gloves (caught them on sale at Harbor Frieght) and one box of 7 mil gloves (the aforementioned heavy duty mechanic ones). I haven't gotten to trying to reuse yet, but if this drags on a few more months I might have to.