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原文網址 劉義瑋
2015-04-22 19:47:59

最近因為一些需求需要使用彈性料,所以買一了一捆TPE,但是似乎因為線材太軟,在上方的進料馬達那常常會卡住,且彈性也沒有如預期般好,不知道各位有沒有推薦的彈性料?

Clarence Lee
2015-04-22 20:39:23

TPE要用最好擠出機齒輪前後要有ptfe管

Peter Wu
2015-04-22 20:53:34

我們會試著提高溫度,然後放慢列印速度,試試看吧

劉義瑋
2015-04-25 01:53:42

一直卡住的問題無法解決,有人有解法嗎?或是有其他推薦比較硬的軟性線材嗎?

Clarence Lee
2015-08-25 22:07:09

2.85mm左右鑽了擴孔插3-2的ptfe/pfa管都行

Clarence Lee
2015-08-25 22:07:16


原文網址 吳昭昌
2015-04-22 15:34:56

請問這是甚麼問題,怎麼印一印會停頓

吳昭昌
2015-04-22 15:36:51

使用Repetier-Host+Slic3r

陳亮宇
2015-04-22 15:41:45

PC在忙嗎?

吳昭昌
2015-04-22 15:43:21

沒有只是純列印,所以說PC在忙會拖慢是嗎

陳亮宇
2015-04-22 15:43:52

換用SD卡列印看是不是就不會這樣了

吳昭昌
2015-04-22 15:44:22

了解,已經換到SD卡在試試

吳昭昌
2015-04-22 16:57:40

換到SD卡上就正常了,所以無法在電腦上直接列印

廖新弘
2015-04-22 18:10:14

可以在電腦連線印,但是不能多工

Clarence Lee
2015-04-22 21:05:33

其實這要看電腦忙不忙而定,
或是想辦法提高 repetier host的優先權..
不過為了避免意外...丟去從SD卡印還是比較保險的..
其實也是可以repetier host接著..但是選擇從SD卡列印

王迎草凡
2015-04-22 22:11:29

用工作管理員把處理程序的優先權提高不知道有沒有用?


原文網址 邱豫彥
2015-04-22 09:51:39

機器還沒來,
所以想請問這邊有代為列印的朋友嗎?
以件計酬沒問題,急要的,謝謝。

王榮達
2015-04-22 10:35:01

請用mail聯繫我,jungtaw@gmail.com

邱豫彥
2015-04-22 10:44:40

已寄信


原文網址 昭堂張
2015-04-22 01:15:38

[皮帶鬆緊調校技巧 之 使用調音器]
前幾天為了調整皮帶的鬆緊度苦惱。因為鬆緊度很難量化,所以大家很難分享設定及經驗。由於ATOM用家的皮帶用料、長度、馬達等都是一樣的,所以,只要能把鬆緊度量化分享,就能造福其他新手們。於是,我想到了個辦法: 用樂器調音用的調音器,來量測皮帶的鬆緊度。靈感來自於手冊上的"音符符號",即然會有聲音,那應該是可以像調吉他弦一樣調吧?! 測試之後,發現可用。我現在把三軸皮帶都調到C#的音 (鬆緊度)。給大家參考。若有人手上也有調音器,也請分享一下使用的音高設定,大家互相參考一下。

昭堂張
2015-04-22 01:18:27

ATOM 1.99手冊上寫要留135CM,結果135CM跟本鎖不起來(太緊了)。最後,我足足多放了應該有半公分。所以,很好奇到底鬆緊要調到如何,對馬達最好?! 太低怕失步、太高怕馬達不夠力....

高北熊
2015-04-22 07:36:40

135cm是可以的,上次有位大大也是說135cm鎖不起來,最後才發現是自己的皮尺不準。

高北熊
2015-04-22 07:40:55

調皮帶音階這招蠻有趣的,晚點來試試調音App可不可以用

昭堂張
2015-04-22 08:54:34

調音App這主意不錯!這樣大家都有調音器了! 誰能分享一下適合的App

Clarence Lee
2015-04-22 11:04:25

怕不同裝置收音濾掉的音頻不一樣...不過實測看看才知道了

Jiunn Yang
2015-04-22 11:16:56

cool idea..., 晚上試試

Yu Shu Huang
2015-04-22 11:45:52

我就是皮尺不準那位 準的135cm真的是剛剛好能鎖螺絲的長度

高北熊
2015-04-22 12:11:37

太棒了~這招真的可以Work
我已經將三組皮帶的鬆緊度(彈起來的頻率)調到一致~

昭堂張
2015-04-22 12:41:51

快快快〜分享一下音值。我是彈長的那段(沒有緊迫器那段)的中間,值是C#

高北熊
2015-04-22 13:23:18

滑塊左邊皮帶顯示是C2,頻率是65.4Hz

高北熊
2015-04-22 13:24:15

滑塊右邊皮帶顯示是D#2,頻率約是78.4Hz

鄭政浤
2015-04-22 13:47:22

www再來就是出動張力記了

昭堂張
2015-04-22 21:37:55

用和@高北熊一樣的App,我的左邊是69.5Hz。差不多。

Stanley Chen
2015-04-23 00:58:34

這太科學!
太聰明了!


原文網址 劉聖心
2015-04-22 00:53:18

請問,在使用pronterface時,一直無法連接上ATOM2.0.
且在裝置管理員中,無法發現ATOM.
是需要裝什麼驅動程式嗎?
我用筆電跟桌機都是相同結果...

另外想問,下載檔案區中2.0韌體解壓縮後.
並無發現atom2.0.ino,這樣要如何更新呢?

組完2.0後都直接用SD卡執行測試程式
300height, big_pixel_star, 50x50Vase都沒問題.
但無法成功列印Eiffel_Tower_mini,因為側吹風扇都沒動作.
於是想用pronterface下指令試看看,才發現這些問題.
且更新韌體時我誤選Marlin.ino,現在ATOM2.0不理我了.

昭堂張
2015-04-22 01:36:13

我是ATOM 1.99的用家。之前也有遇到類似問題。它是一個RS232轉USB的driver。在Windows裝置管理員裡,應該會看到一個COM port。Driver來源一是手冊上提的FTDIChip driver。若是這driver認不到,就試著裝Arduino IDE,它會裝"Arduino牌"的driver。

劉聖心
2015-04-22 02:31:43

謝謝!還是不行,我有執行arduino-1.6.3,一樣找不到.

Clarence Lee
2015-04-22 08:11:50

1.那個unknown device 點開來看vid, pid
2. 是Marlin.ino 無誤..
3. 2.0的板子是用FTDI driver無誤. 但如果你的windows曾經有以前的兩個FTDI失誤版本..而不是後來正常的新版..那可能會有FTDI的悲劇...
http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/VCP.htm

劉聖心
2015-04-22 11:10:10

感謝,悲劇的意思是要系統重灌嗎?

Clarence Lee
2015-04-22 11:43:16

先show出來那個unknown device的vid pid再來看

劉聖心
2015-04-22 18:51:44

韌體的部份好像真沒問題,昨天是忘了將電源開關打開,以至於認為掛了,更新完後側吹風扇終於肯動了.只是upload完後沒顯示done uploading,反而出現一大堆紅字,感覺很怪.附圖是unknown device的vid pid ,希望有救><"

昭堂張
2015-04-22 19:33:00

在"詳細資料"裡有個欄位會秀出VIP/PID。要那張圖才有用哦。這張圖看不出來。

劉聖心
2015-04-22 21:01:12

沒那個選項哩,是"實體裝置物件名稱"嗎?

劉聖心
2015-04-22 21:01:48

只有這些選項

Clarence Lee
2015-04-22 21:03:33

硬體識別碼按下去

劉聖心
2015-04-22 21:05:15

硬體識別碼

Clarence Lee
2015-04-22 21:09:57

這...拔掉usb跟ATOM的連線這個會消失嗎?
確定是的話...
那就只好呼叫
Po-Hsun Peter Wu

劉聖心
2015-04-22 21:21:03

會,一拔掉會馬上消失~

Clarence Lee
2015-04-22 21:24:15

還有建議先去上述ftdi官網換裝最新的vcp 驅動程式..
免得以後又再中招一次

昭堂張
2015-04-22 21:28:23

超慘的,連VID/PID都讀不到.... 換條USB cable或插不同的USB port試試,還有板子的電源打開看看。再不行可能真的要呼叫原廠了...

劉聖心
2015-04-22 21:38:59

換線跟換port都有試過,找有空時,重灌系統看看,再不行,救真的要麻煩原廠了,感謝各位協助 (y)

Peter Wu
2015-04-22 21:52:58

先試試看 virtual COM port driver吧 我之前mac 和pc都灌了就抓到囉

Clarence Lee
2015-04-22 21:53:55

他可能本來電腦上的是舊的會毀掉vid pid的那版本...
所以應該已經沒救..除非用別的解法去重寫vid/pid

Peter Wu
2015-04-22 22:08:01

如果真的不行的話 再麻煩聯絡我們囉~

昭堂張
2015-04-22 22:11:33

應該已經和電腦無關了。USB裝置基本initial都失敗了,這步是在裝driver之前的。我也覺得可以直接找Peter了。:)

劉聖心
2015-05-01 21:57:12

結果回報...我後來將筆電系統重灌,再試一次依然是相同狀況,於是就跟原廠聯絡,將控制板寄回去做檢測,第二天接到電話通知,說板子檢測沒問題,我當時實在很納悶,但原廠為了消除我的疑慮,很阿莎力的換了一張新卡給我,並在隔天一大早就收到,收到當下馬上連線做檢測,原先找不到裝置的桌機,一下就抓到了,後來還先更新了韌體,一切都沒問題,但在將控制板裝上機座,再連線電腦時,居然又出現unknown device的狀況,當時瞬間傻眼,後來想到有可能是內部那條短usb線有問題,於是就用較長那條usb線直接連線,狀況馬上解決~~唉!實在沒想到會是那條線的問題...

昭堂張
2015-05-02 00:28:58

呵呵. 我有說要換cable試哦 ! 我是吃這行飯的,這種問題見多了。

曾俊維
2015-05-02 03:03:59

專業的果然就是不一樣,一眼就看出問題了!

劉聖心
2015-05-02 06:28:42

哈,我是有換線試,不過是換外面那條長的,那時板子是鎖在玻璃板下,一時沒想到那還有條線,但是將板子寄出後,是有想到寄前該再測試一下的...


原文網址 吳昭昌
2015-04-21 16:40:42

Clarence Lee
2015-04-21 17:37:04

lengh 5.5 speed 60 ~90找找看
還有確定一下快速接頭兩端回抽時
有沒有額外的作動空間 …… 查看更多

吳昭昌
2015-04-21 17:39:55

對不起,甚麼是快速接頭兩端回抽時有沒有額外的作動空間

Peter Wu
2015-04-21 23:09:45

看橘色箭頭的地方~ 如果快速接頭前端黑色的部分於回抽時有額外的作動空間時,可以拿個東西繞住橘色箭頭指的地方(可以用鐵絲,或是焊錫等好彎又好固定的東西XD)

吳昭昌
2015-04-22 09:32:32

所以快速接頭在回抽時會後退是不對的,要用東西將他卡住,不讓他後退對不對

Clarence Lee
2015-04-22 09:33:10

恩..拉好..把管插到底..
不然怕回抽的誤差會更大...

吳昭昌
2015-04-22 09:34:02

謝謝您的指導


原文網址 吳昭昌
2015-04-21 16:40:41

使用Slic3r設定,溫度由200降到了180
已經嘗試整個星期了,怎樣設定都牽絲,請各位前輩救救

陳順得
2015-04-21 17:35:59

回抽,10, 0.1, 120(or100), 0, 10, 打勾,打勾

陳順得
2015-04-21 17:37:15

移動速度100~150, 看你的共振帶跟會不會失步

陳順得
2015-04-21 17:38:20

溫度我個人是185,建議你慢慢試

吳昭昌
2015-04-21 17:38:50

感謝您的指導,修正後重新列印,有好的狀況再向您報告


原文網址 Kris Cheng
2015-04-21 10:29:37

1、請問圖片中的物件如果不拆件一次列印,怎麼設定較合適?內部須中空,印完之後就是封閉狀態無法拆支撐。
2、此檔案原是左後側底部朝下,KISSlicer開啟之後角度改變了,請問KISSlicer怎麼調整物件角度?

雷益昇
2015-04-21 11:19:54

右上角小圖點右鍵可以選擇變換方向。這好像超過列印範圍了吧,要站起來印...

Kris Cheng
2015-04-21 11:48:30

Thank you!! 似乎拆件列印比較可行...


原文網址 林志鎰
2015-04-21 09:35:06

請問,kisslicer要調整哪一選項,才能讓ATOM慢慢印?

Clarence Lee
2015-04-21 12:30:24

有個speed bar可以左右拖...fast / precise之間去設定...
越靠近precise越慢


原文網址 Birk Binnard
2015-04-21 03:56:46

The source of my problem is the extruder heater.

If I comment out the M109 S190 command in the 50X50 GCode and remove filament from the printer then the printer moves OK. So there is something bad happening when the extruder heater is on that affects the X, Y, and Z stepper motors (and perhaps the extruder stepper also.)

What I first tried was commenting out the M109 command and disconnecting the extruder motor because I did not want the motor to try pushing filament through a cold extruder. The modified 50X50 part appeared to print OK - but of course there was no actual print created.

To rule out the extruder motor as a cause I reconnected it and removed my filament from the printer. That way the motor could turn as though it was feeding filament, but there would be no filament in the printer.

That is what has been running now for about 7 minutes - the printer is behaving as though it is printing the 50X50 part - but the hot end is not being heated (it shows 0 degrees) and no filament is being pushed into the extruder.

So - how to determine why the filament heater is causing problems with the stepper motors.

One cause could be the current draw of the heater is overloading the motherboard power supply, resulting in insufficient power going to the motors. Another cause could be some sort of short circuit in the hot end that is cause by thermal expansion.

My guess is the first one is the most likely. Could it be that the power supply brick that is included with the US version of the printer does not output enough power? I have several other similar power bricks - perhaps I can find one that outputs more power.

翻譯年糕

Clarence Lee
2015-04-21 07:49:06

Try another power supply is a good start.
Any DC 12V over 5A power supply is fine. Or a ATX / AT PSU from PC.

Clarence Lee
2015-04-21 07:52:02

BTW, could you measure the resistance of the hotend heating circuit? It should be around 3.2 ohm.

Birk Binnard
2015-04-21 08:29:30

I have a PC Power Supply and I see that the 12V supply is from the Yellow and Black wires. I have cut off the Atom2 power wire from it's power brick, but how to tell which of the 2 conductors is + and which is - ?

Clarence Lee
2015-04-21 08:34:23

Could you see the + /- mark on controller board?

Clarence Lee
2015-04-21 08:35:28

Birk Binnard
2015-04-21 08:38:27

Yes - I see those 2 connector terminals. I thought I would use the original power connector & wire that plugs into the Atom2 from outside. But I guess I can run new wires directly to those 2 terminals on the motherboard.

Birk Binnard
2015-04-21 08:39:50

To check the resistance of the hotend heater, can I leave the 2 blue wires connected to the motherboard, or should I disconnect them?

Clarence Lee
2015-04-21 08:44:06

Disconnect might be better to isolated the problem.

Birk Binnard
2015-04-21 08:54:07

Blue wires show 2.6 - 2.7 ohm resistance.

Clarence Lee
2015-04-21 09:14:31

looks fine

Birk Binnard
2015-04-21 09:15:46

Problem - the PC power supply will not stay powered up unless it has a load on it somewhere. When I switch it on the Atom2 LCD lights up for an instant, and then goes dark. I believe that's because there is no load on the power supply.

Clarence Lee
2015-04-21 09:16:47

Maybe hit minimum load issue, did you triggered the ps_on pin to gnd if it's ATX.

Birk Binnard
2015-04-21 09:17:38

What is the ps_on pin? Is it on the Atom2 motherboard?

Birk Binnard
2015-04-21 09:20:01

The PC power supply I have is from a real IBM PC/XT. But I have another, smaller one that is from some other kind of PC system. That one might behave differently. I'll try it and see.

Clarence Lee
2015-04-21 09:21:26

AT psu on PS_ON pin, ATX psu need to pull down ps_on pin to gnd to power on. The ps_on pin is on ATX_20 or 24 connector as green cable.

Birk Binnard
2015-04-21 09:24:29

Good news - the other power supply powers up and stays on. I have Atom2 LCD on OK, fans are running. I will try Preheat 200 and watch temperatures.

Birk Binnard
2015-04-21 09:30:07

Extruder holding @ 200 degress. Now trying Auto-home & Auto-Level, feed filament (all filament is out of printer now), and the print 50X50 part.

Clarence Lee
2015-04-21 09:42:46

The critical case might be combine them together.
Since the current usage max when heat up from room temperature & when movement acceleration.

Birk Binnard
2015-04-21 09:47:16

The printer moved OK with heater on but I had some sort of problem with filament feeding. I'm checking on that now.

Birk Binnard
2015-04-21 10:10:06

Printer is printing OK and extruding OK now. FIrst layer )on build plate) has some filament globs but that could be due to whatever problem I had before. Or maybe the 50X50 print temperature of 190 should be 200. I will let it print some more and the n restart the print to see if I can get a clean result.

I htink this proves conclusively that the power brick that came with my printer is either defective or provides insufficient power. None of the other power bricks I have are suitable - they are mostly for camere equipment and do not output sufficient amps. So can you provide me

Birk Binnard
2015-04-21 10:11:20

So can you provide me (and your future US customers) with an appropriate power brick? In my case I also need the cable that plugs into the Atom2 because I cut it.

Thanks for all your help with this.

Mark Chen
2015-04-21 10:30:03

We will send you a newone ASAPwith our testing .

Birk Binnard
2015-04-21 10:30:53

Excellent - thanks

Birk Binnard
2015-04-21 23:36:05

Just for reference, the PC power supply I'm currently using is at least 15 years old and rated at Input =110V 5A/220V 3A, output= +5V 20A -5V 0.5A 12V 8A -12V 0.5A. I don't think it was ever actually used in any PC system.


 

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