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原文網址 陳曉澔
2015-12-10 01:59:15

我們的3D列印耗材。

Birk Binnard
2015-12-10 02:58:24

Is there a supplier in the US who has this filament?


原文網址 Timy Fat
2015-12-10 01:55:43

跟機器的默契總算好了一點點點
小小小白兵 ?

陳明谷
2015-12-10 09:11:09

這不是一點點點
是超級厲害!!!

Timy Fat
2015-12-11 18:08:42

李穆
2015-12-11 18:42:27

厲害!


原文網址 Jörg Johow
2015-12-10 01:41:35

I keep having warping problems with my Atom 2.0.
What are the best parameters to play with?

翻譯年糕

Charlie Ting
2015-12-10 04:42:31

Depends. Maybe you can share some pictures,then we can point out which are most significant in your situation.

Jörg Johow
2015-12-10 19:30:23

Jörg Johow
2015-12-10 19:32:17

Charlie Ting
2015-12-10 20:18:31

1. Enable brim to avoid this problem.
2. Slow down your first layer speed.
3. Shut down fan/cool.
4. Higher temperature than normal object.

Jörg Johow
2015-12-12 00:03:57

I made a 20 lines skirt (is it a skirt?) for my Christmas Star : http://youtu.be/wnRHPWuzORM

Jörg Johow
2015-12-12 00:06:19

Seeing the video, i have to say, that the printer sounds funny :-/


原文網址 Hao Chun Chuang
2015-12-10 00:56:38

3d print /CNC/3d掃描的完美結合!

在本文中,設計師提出了不同的做法;不再是重新列印整個物件,而是針對現有物件進行檢查與修改。設計師重新改良了現有的 3D 印表機,透過構建一個嶄新的系統,來實現這樣一個想法。使用者將現有物件安置在 3D 印表機上,然後將原始模型以及修改後的模型,以 3D 的格式載入到設計的軟體,逆向演算如何進行物件的修改、修補。在系統查明哪些部分要刪除/添加哪些內容後,使用內置於印表機內的 3D 掃描器進行截取,而後標定好模型的坐標,小型銑床首先會刪除多餘的幾何部分,然後印表機的列印頭會堆疊列印新的幾何部分。

Hao Chun Chuang
2015-12-10 12:11:34

其實目的是想看ATOM機子是不是有這樣的發展機會 XD

Hao Chun Chuang
2015-12-10 12:11:53

話說雙噴頭已經觀望好久了.....

陳明谷
2015-12-10 13:31:57

應該是有技術瓶頸難克服
光想…我已經想到好幾個…

曾俊維
2015-12-10 13:46:31

印的不是很好


原文網址 Birk Binnard
2015-12-09 23:47:35

WiggleLamp2

This is one of the largest prints I have made so far - about 44 hours overall print time. The 4 photos show the lamp on in a dark room, lamp off, close-up if a few ribs, and some blobs that I will remove with an Xacto knife.

Craftware did the slicing and the part printed with no problems - except at the very end. At about 05:45 this morning I was awakened by the printer making a really bad noise. When I turned on the light I saw the part had completed printing OK, but both Y-axis magnetic arms had somehow become detached from the printhead.

So I immediately switched off the power, reconnected the arms, powered on, and did an Auto-Home. The printer behaved normally so I think it is OK, but I have no idea what caused the arms to detach.

The STL file for this part is at

http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1186305

and

https://pinshape.com/items/15250-3d-printed-wigglelamp2

翻譯年糕

André Medborg
2015-12-10 00:04:31

Take a look at your g code the print head properly ended up outside the print area.
VW does this with really bic things on Delta's

Birk Binnard
2015-12-10 00:32:15

Unfortunately I'm not all that familiar with GCode so I'm not sure I'd be able to recognize a problem with it. But my guess is the issue was with the printer, not the GCode.

When I got to the printer the printhead was on the top surface of the part - which was a correct position. But the Y-Axis carrier was about 4 inches lower than it should have been - it was near the bottom of the Y column instead of being near the top where the X & Z carriers were. So there was no way the Y arms could be connected to the printhead - which they weren't.

To reconnect them I just pushed the Y carrier up to about where it should have been and then reconnected the arms. After doing that I powered up and did the Auto-Home funciton.

I have no idea how the Y carrier got where it was; I guess there could have been some sort of error in the Y-value GCode. But doesn't the printer's firmware do a fancy geometric transformation of X.Y,Z values to internal commands for the stepper motors? Seems to me this would make it difficult to find out why one carrier was sent to the wrong position.

Joschka Friedl
2015-12-10 02:03:53

Is there any deformation in The structure of The lamp? Had a similar Problem where he lost steps and because of that The x and z tower ripped The printhead off.

Birk Binnard
2015-12-10 02:57:21

Joschka - no, the entire part is looks perfect; no deformations, missed loops, or anything like that. I understand about missed steps but I see no evidence of that anywhere.

André Medborg
2015-12-10 03:40:22

What I mean by the gcode is like you can see on this screen dump, the trail ends off the printer area. Check the last position before the home command. If this is the case you cam modd the gcode in Notepad by changing the last wrong entry (x, y position) to 0.000 0.000 then save and open in CW and see again. You may have to do it over more than once before you get a hang of it.

André Medborg
2015-12-10 03:42:36

Oh yeah, move the "Line slider" to see the hotend position.

Birk Binnard
2015-12-10 03:51:45

Andre - OK, I see what you mean. I'll check the GCode and see what I can find out. If your suspicion is correct then I'll notify the CW developer that I have found another bug that needs fixing. My feeling is that no end user should have to edit GCode to prevent things like this.

André Medborg
2015-12-10 03:54:53

Sounds good. I notified them too ☺

Birk Binnard
2015-12-10 04:35:51

Andre - I think I am confused! Here is a screenshot of the last position. I think it shows the hotend position at X=-100.150, Y=100.203, Z=235.05. I have no idea where these numbers come from, clearly they should be 0,0,0. But they are within the printer's limits of 210,210, 320.

Or am I misunderstanding what those limits really are?


原文網址 Charlie Ting
2015-12-09 21:35:31

[分享 - 撞車]

好久沒分享心得了,最近剛好想來弄支怪傢俬,所以得挑戰 ATOM 的極限,列印的直徑達到 24 公分。這是個什麼感覺呢?

幾個觀察:
1. 碳纖桿會碰到皮帶
2. 滑塊再一公分就會撞到底部
3. 偵測開關的螺絲從固定夾上方掃過
所以非常驚險~~~不過 ATOM 還是可以順順的印。

反倒是讓我發現一個問題,以及過去觀念值得修正的地方。

就是當平台推到很邊邊之後,要拉回來時,其實球頭的磁力在這個角度下是很吃虧的,很容易發生很大聲的疑似碰撞的聲音。但其實是球頭有瞬間脫離,然後又被磁力吸回。
這個問題除了讓人感到害怕之外,也容易造成位移。

所以,我發現有觀念要改。

1. 我寧可把列印速度往上衝,例如40mm/s, 50, 甚至70,80。只要供料穩定就可以了,那並不會讓物件品質有太大的下降。

2. 調降 XY travel,從原本的 250mm/s,降到 150mm/s。這時我幾乎沒聽過那個碰撞聲了。

這樣的作法好壞都有。

好處,列印速度會更快,因為你的整體列印速度是加倍,但卻只有在移動時減速。作品可能更美,因為排除了撞車的可能性。

缺點嘛,當 XY travel 的距離太遠,就無法避免牽絲和溢料的問題。

不過我覺得是值得的。因為一旦撞車,輕則位移,嚴重的話是整個失敗。相較之下,小小的牽絲和溢料,並不是什麼大問題。而且,這部份還有可能抑制,所以沒什麼大不了。

以上~~~

有興趣的可以改一下參數,看看感覺是否不同。

戴士偉
2015-12-09 21:38:24

把連桿改長一點, 犧牲一些列印高度, 到邊邊就比較有力一點~

Hawke ChienSheng Liu
2015-12-09 21:48:36

丁大,討教一下您的Accel, Amax X/Y/Z


原文網址 Adam Chen
2015-12-09 20:42:58

無語問天花板
最近斯乎是天氣冷了 冷縮熱漲導致底板翹起來最終失敗
大概是第五次了吧

張不凡
2015-12-09 20:50:36

我注意到的是您的手毛

林學舜
2015-12-09 20:52:26

印大一點都會翹 我的拳頭也快翹

Adam Chen
2015-12-09 21:02:04

有點都不大啊 小東西而已

Charlie Ting
2015-12-09 21:04:53

我的解法是 brim 溫度拉高10~20度,速度放慢到60~70%,brim 加厚到 0.2mm,然後印完後再恢復正常。基本上和膠帶就很牢,反而是膠帶跟玻璃會被拉開,這就無解了。

李穆
2015-12-09 21:10:40

改熱床後就無腦印了(挖鼻),不過口紅膠上厚一點+Brim開大基本上也沒有問題啦!

陳明谷
2015-12-09 21:25:17

我開除濕加暖爐

Adam Chen
2015-12-09 21:42:51

感謝各位提點
本來有考慮要用吹風機吹它

James Lin
2015-12-09 23:05:00

我用切割墊 + 口紅膠後就沒翹過,
而且若懶的時候物件拔起來後口紅膠殘膠用濕衛生紙抹勻還可利用,若擔心的話抹勻乾了再上口紅膠。

另外一個更愉快的是,口紅膠可以用之前(隔一天以上也可)先塗,乾掉再印也很牢 ~

ps. 我的切割墊沒上膠會翹曲剛買來印兩次有發現,但配合口紅膠有完全不一樣的表現

缺點:千萬要注意熱騰騰的噴頭別接觸到切割墊(利用v2.0.3校正一次就好,減少噴頭穿洞的機會)

若遇較長或大物件力道會彎曲時,應該切割墊與玻璃黏薄雙面膠,我是還沒這樣用(怕凹凸不平),有遇到雖然黏很牢,但是物件把切割墊鼓起來 ~
還有噴頭別撞長尾夾~


原文網址 林一旭
2015-12-09 18:55:10

這也太好笑了吧!!太有喜感了。

ChienMing Liang
2015-12-09 20:29:26

聖誕老人也很療癒~


原文網址 Kwok Tony
2015-12-09 18:42:05

Charlie Ting
2015-12-09 21:49:52

可能不夠牢固,所以錯位了

Kwok Tony
2015-12-09 22:51:02

會不會噴頭不夠牢固造成?


原文網址 Kwok Tony
2015-12-09 18:42:04

越大面積越明顯,是那里出了問題?皮帶也放鬆了


 

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